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Suno doesn’t understand copyright law and is wrong about stream-ripping rules, say major labels

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Suno • 3 min read

Suno doesn’t understand copyright law and is wrong about stream-ripping rules, say major labels

The majors have made another filing in their legal battle with Suno. They want to add claims that the AI company sourced its training data by illegally stream-ripping audio from YouTube. Suno insists it didn’t violate stream-ripping rules in US law, but the majors say Suno is misreading those rules…

Chris Cooke • 22 Oct 2025

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Suno • 4 min read

Having been accused of stream-ripping by the majors, Suno and Udio intervene in high profile stream-ripper case

The major labels recently added stream-ripping allegations to their Suno and Udio lawsuits. The AI start-ups say the majors’ new claims are invalid, but fear that a ruling in an earlier legal battle involving stream-ripper Yout could open them to liability. So they want that earlier ruling changed…

Chris Cooke • 13 Oct 2025

Suno tells court to reject stream-ripping “gambit” by major labels in AI legal battle

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Suno • 4 min read

Suno tells court to reject stream-ripping “gambit” by major labels in AI legal battle

The major labels recently requested to amend their lawsuit against Suno to include claims the AI company gathered its training data by stream-ripping audio from YouTube, in violation of copyright law. In response, Suno argues that any stream-ripping it may have done did not, in fact, violate US law…

Chris Cooke • 06 Oct 2025

Indie artist suing Suno amends lawsuit with new arguments against AI company’s fair use defence

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Suno • 3 min read

Indie artist suing Suno amends lawsuit with new arguments against AI company’s fair use defence

After the major labels updated their lawsuit against Suno, adding allegations of stream-ripping, the indie musician who also sued the music AI company has done the same. Anthony Justice hopes that recent judgements in cases involving Anthropic and Meta can help him defeat Suno’s fair use defence…

Chris Cooke • 24 Sep 2025

Major labels add piracy claims to Suno lawsuit after $1.5 billion Anthropic settlement

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Suno • 3 min read

Major labels add piracy claims to Suno lawsuit after $1.5 billion Anthropic settlement

The majors have amended their Suno lawsuit, alleging that the AI company sourced music by illegally ripping files from YouTube. It follows the ruling in the authors v Anthropic case, where Anthropic’s illegal sourcing of content created big copyright liabilities, prompting a $1.5 billion settlement…

Chris Cooke • 22 Sep 2025

Suno says indie musician’s copyright claims about its AI’s output are bogus

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Suno says indie musician’s copyright claims about its AI’s output are bogus

In June, independent artist Anthony Justice sued AI company Suno for copyright infringement, following the lead of the major labels. His lawsuit made copyright claims about Suno’s training data and the tracks it outputs. Suno says the claims relating to the outputs should be immediately dismissed…

Chris Cooke • 20 Aug 2025

Musician sues Suno and Udio, says indie artists have been “trampled the most” by unlicensed AI

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Musician sues Suno and Udio, says indie artists have been “trampled the most” by unlicensed AI

A musician has sued Suno and Udio, filing a class action lawsuit against the AI companies that seeks to represent all indie artists in the US. Although the majors are already suing both start-ups, Anthony Justice argues that it’s independent artists whose rights have “been trampled the most” by AI…

Chris Cooke • 17 Jun 2025

“History repeating itself” say music creators as majors start negotiations with Suno and Udio

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“History repeating itself” say music creators as majors start negotiations with Suno and Udio

The majors are involved in licensing negotiations with the two music AI companies they sued last year, Udio and Suno. But will they consult music creators before agreeing any deals? Artist and songwriter organisations fear not, but insist that creator consent must be secured before signing any deals…

Chris Cooke • 03 Jun 2025

Suno AI’s faulty guardrails mean its ‘ReMi’ lyric model will spit out entire lyrical works with basic prompting

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Suno AI’s faulty guardrails mean its ‘ReMi’ lyric model will spit out entire lyrical works with basic prompting

CMU has been able to get Suno AI to generate entire lyrics for well known songs, something that the company’s founder Mikey Shulman has previously implied should not be possible because of its “aggressive originality-guarding features” that stop people “trying to copy existing music”…

Sam Taylor • 02 Apr 2025

Suno’s content “obviously infringes copyrights” of prominent German songwriters says GEMA lawsuit

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Suno • 3 min read

Suno’s content “obviously infringes copyrights” of prominent German songwriters says GEMA lawsuit

GEMA has sued another AI company for copyright infringement. Having sued OpenAI last year, it has now filed a lawsuit against music AI platform Suno. While Suno has already been sued by the major labels in the US, this lawsuit will test the copyright obligations of the AI company under European law…

Chris Cooke • 21 Jan 2025

Suno CEO Mikey Shulman says making music sucks, skill doesn’t matter and everyone building AI products infringes copyright

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Suno • 8 min read

Suno CEO Mikey Shulman says making music sucks, skill doesn’t matter and everyone building AI products infringes copyright

In a wide ranging interview on the 20VC podcast, Suno.ai boss Mikey Shulman has outlined his vision for music in the age of AI, saying that AI generated music is an opportunity to drive greater engagement for both listeners and creators, and that artists he talks to “love and use” Suno…

Sam Taylor • 14 Jan 2025

Op-ed: Jonathan Coote of Bray & Krais on AI and fair use

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Op-ed: Jonathan Coote of Bray & Krais on AI and fair use

As the Suno and Udio lawsuits make their way through the courts, the fundamental issue in the cases is likely to be whether the 'fair use' defence can be successfully run for the training of AI tools on copyright works. Jonathan Coote examines the issue in more detail…

CMU Contributors • 03 Sep 2024